21 day challenge: Learn to Meditate - Shared screen with speaker view
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hello from Ccopnhagen
morning from Sutton
yes please too!
That was lovely
Q. I often end up catastrophising. Is that common and how do I stop it?
I notice at the enemy stage my mind does all it can to distract me
beautiful poem what is it called?
Wonderful. Thank you. I really resonated with the poem - it helped me to embody the notion of change, beauty in the buds and letting go.
Q where is lovely poem from?
Thks was lovely
my experience and a question or 2...
Thanks you it was lovely!
loved the tree poem
i really prefer the Metta pleased you are feeling a little better i can tell
I thought the poem was very apt. Thanks and good morning.
Q: beautiful poem what is it called?
thank you. that was great. found the guidance to return to being present really helpful before stage 4
Very insightful thank you 🙏
Q- if you decide on a “better” person for a certain category/part should you try and block that out or include them?
found that very helpful. a deep sense of peace and joy.
Q This morning I realised that as soon as I achieved a well wishing feeling towards others I concurrently felt a burden of responsibility to make that happen for them. I know intellectually that isn't the case but still feel it on my shoulders. I guess recognising this is helpful but are there any good ways that I should be processing this?
Anne Sophia Hendy
Q: why are we not allowing ourselves to dislike someone, surely that is part of human nature?
for some reason I find the metta bhavna meditation much easier to stay focused. perhaps because my mind has something to visualise?
Q Could you please post all the poems from this week on the slack? I have been really enjoying them all!
q) I enjoy a lot more the metabhavana more so than mindful breathing. I’m curious, is that common and should I be more focused on the mindfulness of breathing.
Thank you that was much better for me today, appreciated your words
I chose a different person for stage 4 and found it very difficult running through old wounds in my mind whilst trying to wish them well. beautiful poem.
pamela in south london
i found myself feeling tired and sleepy in the enemy stage
Q when thinking of the person disliked, I kept finding myself feeling pity for him and imagining myself in his head. I don't think that is really constructive, is it?
I enjoyed that a lot - thank you. I did find it quite hard to keep happy and feel peace when I was thinking about the person I find difficult. I felt it took me out of my peace
Anne Sophia Hendy
Q: is it okay that someone who was previously in the enemy stage is now in the stage with someone we are ambivalent about?
Q: There aren't many people I don't like. However, yesterday someone I have found very difficult, but not seen for a very long time, sent me a disturbing message on social media. I wondered if practising Metta Bhavana had brought her actively back into my life.
find it hard to concentrate on just one person Is it wrong to allow more than one in each stage
Q: I noticed I started to engage in conversation with the people I brought to mind. is it a distraction from sensation?
an aversion is painful for the person feeling it
Lea Weber-Schäfer (she/her)
Q During the first stage I today suddenly was drawing a comparison to meditating with affirmations. But probably this a total different and way more self centered approach or do you see similarities?
Q I'm struggling to find a person I dislike; do I skip that stage?
Q. This morning I found it difficult to bring anyone clearly to mind, even myself. I haven’t experienced this vagueness before in this meditation practice and I wondered what might be going on?
pamela in south london
my friend often falls asleep on the train after we have had a hike. i found it useful to picture her sleeping
Q: I have a very hard time wishing well to someone Machiavellian and that i don’t see kindness in them. What is a technique to overcome this difficulty ?
Thank you and Good morning to everyone
Katie Clark, London
I managed to do this without any guidance today! I accidentally left the class just as the meditation started! I wasnt let back in until it had finished but it turned out to be useful.
found my stage relatively easy after what you said at the beginning. the friend stage I kept thinking of my 3 closest friends and couldn't focus on any individual, then my brothers came into it as I reached out to them this morning.one in particular as I don't speak to his as often but that felt really ice when I could focus on him. then the neutral kept changing between 3 or 4 people until near the end of that stage, then the difficult person was easy to focus on but my body felt cold, you said to bring warmth from our own experience and that helped. then the 5th stage was an unbelievable experience where I went across the globe country to country from the skies sprinkling this magic dust of love over every country, seeing so much detail an different cultures, then I went to the past and then into the future. I wish I could explain in more detail, but id be here all day
Thank you so much.
Thank you for this mornings meditation and guidance through the practice . I felt a very warm glow and heat surge through my body today , tingling feeling in my hands and feet and my breathing seemed to be more deeper but soft without concentrating and focusing to hard . I found it easier to let go today , some days are easier some are harder but I guess it’s just like day to day life and tunning in will take some time . 🙏🏽
It's really interesting to hear about "sentimental pity" - it reminds me of an uncomfortable feeling I've experienced which can sometimes involve a bit of a projection or some assumption and never feels quite right. Very enlightening. Thank you.
Yes that's spot on... More move toward compassion. Thank you. Plenty to consider there.
q: my heart really opened in the final stage where all 4 people came together. is this usual?
Q - i find it hard to stay focused on the neutral person since I don't know anything about them so find myself going through the sayings "may you be well etc" quite quickly then being left to think or feel nothing and get distracted. Am i supposed to feel anything towards them?
Thank you all. x
I found the guidance that remembering that persons lie will end was fantastic for bringing immediate sensitivity to someone I find it challenging to feel sensitive towards. Thanks. Not heard that suggestion before and very enlightening.
Life will end!!
I remember Sraddhagita described someone in the fourth stage as someone you wouldn’t want to be stuck in a capsule of the London Eye with! I found this really helpful because you don’t necessarily dislike them as such
thank you, am so enjoying this week
Thank you - this morning really helped me settle into the practice and the discussion about how to manage the "difficult person" part was really enlightening. Have a lovely day!
Q you mentioned four sections of the meta prism and told us of one compassion - what are the other two?
I too would like to hear some advice to Ana’s question earlier….. “Q: I have a very hard time wishing well to someone Machiavellian and that i don’t see kindness in them. What is a technique to overcome this difficulty ?”
thanks so much for. today..
Thank you very much Prajnamanas and Oscar. You have a great way of explaining things and today, how you lead us in really helped me to settle in and, be alert for all stages. I really enjoy listening to all you share. :)
Q; do you find that poor sleep and a sense of fatigue exacerbates the mind’s tendency to be distracted during this meditation?
Q: when I don’t like someone I prefer to block them away from my mind. they do come to my mind though. however I feel it’s counterproductive to make an effort to bring them into my mind on purpose. I’m sure there’s
Thank you for today
thanks for today’s session.
Thank for a peaceful meditation and for sharing your experience and wisdom
Thanks very much
Q I find on some days my direct experience feels uncomfortable (e.g. I can feel my heart beating quickly, tension in the body), perhaps as I’m feeling anxious. I can get really caught up in this and feeling any metta can be hard. I’m trying to be kind and patient with myself as much as I can. If I can’t really ‘feel’ the metta, is it enough to imagine it and hope it comes?
Thank you very much, have all a lovely morning!
Thank you so much. A beautiful meditation. xxx
Thank you for today! 🙏🏼
Thank you for a great morning. Have a nice day.
I’m sure there’s a good reason to bring someone you don’t like into mind. But I feel bad about bringing them to mind. thank you for all the meditation btw 😊
thank you from Copenhagen
thanks so much for today.. find everything so interesting and all the explanations fascinating. The poem was beautiful too. I got emotional a few times.. when I thought of my friend and in the second reading of the poem. Sorry I was so fidgety today.. I have a back problem this week that I am working through it. It is a challenge to sit in any way right now. blessings to you all and have a beautiful day xxx
q: when choosing the 4th person, I chose someone I like, but doesn't like me! I feel they have misunderstood my intentions & interactions with them, & unfairly view me as a "difficult" person. so is it the right approach to wish them well as my 4th person?
Q. I agree with all the appreciative comments of your teaching. I find I “make progress” through your eloquent, considered words. My question is : are you doing any courses I could join?
What if you associate the friends equally with feelings of love and difficulty, sometimes also aversion? And most people don’t seem to belong to just any one category?
Really enjoying your teaching 🙏
Just realised you haven't sneezed today. Glad you're feeling better.
Thanks for the meditation today; have a beautiful day, everyone. See you all tomorrow.
thank you for today!
that's great, thank you so much!
Really interesting discussion, thank you. Much to think about.
Lovely poem by Rolf Jacobsen re sleep Pranjamanas. Wirth checking out
thank you agrees ☝️
Thank you so much! Have a lovely day everyone x
Zoom user Jane Lord
thank you so much have a lovely day
thank you very much
London Buddhist Centre Online
Here's the link: https://londonbuddhistcentre.com/life-with-full-attention/
I've done it and it's very good.
London Buddhist Centre Online
If you have missed any of meditation sessions, you can catch up here https://londonbuddhistcentre.com/resources-catching-up/
Zoom user Jane Lord
thank you i have been thinking about what happens next
i really appreciate your food for thougth Prajnamanas. good impulses which open new views and approaches for the meditation - especially for me as a beginner. have a lovely day wherever you are everyone
can someone do that course who hasn’t done this one ?
see you tomorrow! thank you 🙏